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The Lawfare Podcast

A Trip Around Africa with Judd Devermont and Emilia Columbo

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The population of Africa is projected to double by 2050, giving the continent one quarter of the world's people by then. Nigeria alone will have a larger population than the United States. To the extent they aren't so already, the world's problems and opportunities will be Africa's, too, and African problems and opportunities will also be the world's. David Priess spoke about developments in African politics and international engagement with two experts from the Africa Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies—its director Judd Devermont, and one of its senior associates, Emilia Columbo.

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0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:34.1

Horn of Africa was the big story last year.

0:36.4

It will be the big story this year.

0:39.0

Transitions in Sudan, transitions in Ethiopia and this key election in Somalia.

0:43.1

So just focusing on those last two, Ethiopia is supposed to have elections now in August,

0:49.7

Somalia by the end of the year.

0:52.0

For Ethiopia, this would be the first democratic election since 2005 and this is a population

0:59.4

of 100 million people.

1:01.6

In Somalia, it would be sort of slowly moving away from that failed state that has been

1:07.0

sort of stuck in since the 1990s.

1:10.0

Challenges in Ethiopia, if you are going to have a democratic election, where you're

1:14.8

going to change all of the rules of the game, where you're really genuinely committed

1:18.1

for people to vote.

1:19.6

That means a whole host of things that are going to be challenging and they're not really

1:23.4

up to speed yet.

1:24.4

They haven't really started voter registration, they haven't released the electoral regulations,

1:30.4

they've decided to have this election in August, which is the height of the rainy season.

1:34.3

I mean knowingly they've only called it tentative.

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