When you're in it it's funny it I suppose it feels normal it feels like that's you know how it's supposed to be

Hopefully that doesn't come across as as something arrogant. I felt we had a great product and if we could tell our story and get out there

and make you know products that we really believed in

slowly bit by bit you know people would come and we'd be able to you know

start building something and thankfully you know it was still alive. Oh, Hey everybody I'm your host Stephen Pulbren and this is Hodincky Radio.

Our guest this week is an old friend of mine, somebody I've known for over a decade.

His name's Michael Hill, and he's the creative director of Drakes,

the London-based Habard, Tymaker, and Taylor.

Michael's actually the very first person we collaborated with on a product here at Hodinke way back in 2012

and he's someone whose own business has kind of grown alongside ours.

It's been really great to watch him take Drakes from being really a tie in

scarf maker to being sort of a global fashion brand. He's got an amazing eye for color,

amazing taste, and he's also an awesome guy. I was really excited to sit down and

talk with him about some of Drake's latest collaborations, their move to Savile Row,

and why he still pairs his clothes with

colorful swatches. It's a super fun conversation and one that I've been wanting to have for a long time.

But first I sat down with James and Ben to talk about some highlights from the

site recently. We talked about Ben's talking watches with Reza Ali Rishidian, who has probably

the world's finest collection of dive watches. We talked about a trio of incredibly rare longer

ones coming up for auction. We talked about Fitbit's

sale to Google and a couple of other things. You'll have to listen to get the full story.

So without further ado, my conversation with Ben and James.

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