Want to welcome everybody to a special new podcast that we're doing called Building Brownstown.

And we're going to kick things off in the biggest way possible with the owners of your Cleveland Browns, Jimmy and D. Haslam.

Guys, this is an exciting time.

Thank you for being here.

And we're excited to talk about what should be a transformative event, not only for the Cleveland Browns, but for Northeast Ohio.

So I want to go back because you and I, we've had conversations on sidelines many, many years ago when it didn't seem like a dome stadium was a possibility. When did it become a real possibility that the Cleveland Browns will be playing in a dome stadium? Do you, why don't you go through the history of how we got there? I will, but first of all, we're incredibly excited.

I mean, this is just, it's going to be, as you said, transformational for this region.

And we're really looking forward to it.

But I'll take you back.

We started, I don't know, eight, and with Mayor Jackson, 2018, talking about what could happen to the stadium on the lakefront.

And he asked us to do a plan of what the lakefront would look like.

So we worked with, you know, a terrific architect, Thomas Wolts, to come up with what we thought was an amazing plan.

And then as time went on, you Bibb came in and time went on with what their vision was

for the lakefront.

And it became more and more apparent that after looking at what we could do there, that there's

so much more we could do for Northeast Ohio. We could do

a bigger dream, really take care of our fans by building a dome. So that's when we started

looking for property. And it's been, as you know, quite the process. Yeah, so tell me about that

process, because you're saying, okay, now this is an idea. Now we need to find a space. Now we need to find an architect. Now we need to find somebody who's going to excavate the space. All the little things that go into what will be, I think a beautiful finished product, hopefully ready to go in 2029. What was that process like? We know, ironically, when Mayor Bibb came in and he wanted to take a look at the overall design

we'd come up with and decided to put out an RFP and use a different architect, that caused

things to slow down.

And during that time period, the DeGeronimo family, who we do some other things with,

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