Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast Inside Rail. I have the distinct honor and pleasure of

sitting this morning with Jan Yakel, who is the senior editor of the Epoch Times. He has written a book

about organ harvesting in China, and this is going to be an exciting, if difficult conversation. So,

Jan, without further ado, welcome to Dark Horse. Brett, it's a real pleasure and an honor. And I,

you know, you do quite amazing work on this show. So I'm so glad to be here. Yes, I'm really

glad you are here. I have, of course, been on your show,

American Thought Leaders, an excellent show for those of you who have not yet discovered it.

Our subject today is a tough one, and I don't think you know this, but I have a, let's say, a professional interest in organ donation that goes back to at least 2003.

My focus on it has been about the game theory surrounding the donation of organs.

And anyway, so I find our interests here intersect.

Now, I don't have a hard copy of your book,

and I've just gotten one of the galley proofs.

I've done my best to go through it.

There's the book itself.

Imagine that.

Just got it on Friday.

The first copies were sent out.

I mean, it comes out in a month,

to be fair. Killed toorder.com, shameless plug for where to get it. But I do have a print copy,

actually, finally, first one. Yes. And if you're going to get a copy, which I recommend to everyone,

you should also get a chair so you can sit down while you read it because you don't want to be

stunned and fall over. Our first sponsor today is Masa chips. Masa makes ridiculously delicious

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