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A Toast To Bats That Pollinate Agave, And Tracking Monarchs

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Science Friday and WNYC Studios

Science, Life Sciences, Wnyc, Natural Sciences, Friday

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🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

How bats, agave plants, and tequila are connected. Plus, tiny trackers on monarch butterflies reveal their migration journeys.

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0:00.0

I'm Ira Flato, and this is Science Friday. Today on the podcast, we look at two marvels of a

0:10.4

migration in Mexico. We'll hear how researchers use tiny tracking devices attached to individual

0:17.6

monarch butterflies to record their epic voyage south.

0:21.6

But first, how the dietary needs of a migrating bat influences what ends up in your

0:27.7

margarita glass.

0:29.2

Okay, let me explain.

0:30.7

When you think about bats, chances are you think of the ones you see at dusk flitting about to hunt

0:36.9

insects, right? But some species of bats like to eat

0:40.7

fruits or flowers, not bugs, and they play an important role as pollinators. Now, one place that

0:48.0

the pollinator role is crucial is in the relationship between bats and agave plants.

0:59.9

And that has consequences both for the ecosystems around the agave and for your liquor cabinet,

1:04.0

since agave is the source of drinks like tequila and miscal.

1:05.6

Now you get it, right?

1:10.3

Well, here to explain this seemingly strange connection is Dr. Kristen Lear,

1:12.6

director of the Agave Restoration Initiative at Bat Conservation International. Welcome to Science Friday. Hi there. Thanks for having me.

1:19.5

You're welcome. What kind of bats are we talking about here? So there's three species of nectar

1:25.6

feeding bats that we're talking about that migrate between Mexico and the U.S.

1:30.9

And that feed on the nectar of agave plants.

1:34.1

Unfortunately, one of them is endangered, the endangered Mexican long-nosed bat.

1:38.5

And that's why we're working to protect them.

1:40.9

All right.

1:41.1

So explain to me the connection between the bats and the agave. Yeah. So these bats,

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