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🗓️ 28 March 2024
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This week, Alan and Quinta were joined again by Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien and Lawfare Foreign Policy Editor Daniel Byman—also of Georgetown University and the Center for Strategic and International Studies— to talk over the week’s national security news, including:
For object lessons, Alan endorsed the podcast “Next Year in Moscow,” on Russians living in exile who departed their country after the beginning of Putin’s war with Ukraine. Tyler sang the praises of Waxahatchee’s new album “Tigers Blood.” And Quinta recommended a reflection on Baltimore’s collapsed Francis Scott Key Bridge.
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0:00.0 | So Tyler, tell us about your struggles getting a press pass. Why won't they just give you one, man? |
0:05.0 | I know the word Kafka-esque gets thrown around a lot, but I think it really fits in this case. |
0:12.0 | Yeah, I don't know if any listeners have read the New York court dispatches, but we have been |
0:19.0 | forced to go into the the line in which the public can attend these hearings instead of the press. |
0:25.1 | The Hui Palai. |
0:26.3 | Exactly. |
0:27.3 | And that's because we have not been able to obtain a press pass yet because of very gate keepy I would call it draconian I would also |
0:36.9 | call it requirements to obtain a New York City Press Pass which require six live |
0:42.3 | covered events in New York City in the five boroughs which |
0:46.3 | obviously raises a chicken and egg question how do you cover these events without a |
0:49.7 | press pass first and I think that that paradox was by design to close ranks of the |
0:55.1 | the New York City Press Corps. Are you serious you need a press pass to cover the |
0:58.2 | live events but you need to cover the live events to get a press pass? I mean I could go to these event A live event is anything with like, you know, police barricades, you know, court counts, but |
1:08.6 | Did Taylor Swift concert count? |
1:11.1 | Well, it's funny you say that because we had briefly wondered whether Tyler should attend, |
1:16.5 | would be Reagan, assassin, John Hinckley's concert, but it was cancelled. |
1:21.5 | Oh my God. Which, as you can imagine, I was... |
1:24.0 | I mean you weren't going to do that anyway. |
1:25.0 | Oh, I absolutely was. |
1:27.0 | I was like, you know, two birds, one stone. |
1:28.0 | I have to see his famous second act. |
1:32.0 | As you can imagine in Brooklyn, it was probably going to be pretty well attended. |
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