The way these trends are headed, the way the, and the direction technology pushes us in,

maybe what you're getting out with your question with AI is like, are we going to end up locked down by some like central authority or a handful of, you know, big companies deciding how it goes.

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Hey, welcome into Gun Talk Nation. Today on Gun Talk Nation, we're going to talk the techy side of guns, both in the content you consume online and maybe some other stuff.

Some smart guys who've been in the tech world.

They have, I guess we used to call it a blog, huh?

Chuck and Kareem.

We've got Kareem Shaya, we've got Chuck Rossi.

You guys are with open source defense, which I know we've had open source defense. We've had you on Gun Talk Radio. I think, you know, Tom brings it up from time to time because there's some fun coverage and some good coverage there. But I mean, how would you describe what you guys are doing with open source defense and how did it get started?

Yeah, I think like the the way I'd always put it is our goal is to normalize gun culture.

We have, we all have the experience of being, you know, in the past, like the gun guy in some office in New York or San Francisco and finding this underground world of people out there who just like sidle up to us in the office kitchen and say like, hey, I heard you

like to I heard you have guns or know about guns or like shooting.

I hear you're holding.

Yeah.

Hey, exactly. You're going to talk to you about guns? Yeah, the stuff. And hear you're holding. Yeah. Hey, exactly.

You're going to talk to you about guns?

Yeah, the stuff.

And yeah, like, you know, like, can you tell me what to buy or take me shooting or

or really what they're saying is like, can you make me feel comfortable being interested

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