A Taylor Swift Backlash! Plus: New Albums By Antlers and Jay Som
Indiecast
Amazon Music
4.6 • 621 Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
Steven and Ian begin by discussing Ian's weekend plans to attend an emo festival in Las Vegas, and the awkwardness of talking about music with friends and family in real life (1:35). Then they discuss the reaction to the new Taylor Swift album, The Life Of A Showgirl, which has sparked a critical backlash and millions more record sales (6:05).
After that, they touch base on the Fantasy Albums Draft, including Steven's most questionable pick, and then do a "yay or nay" on country bad boy Zach Bryan (34:47). In the mailbag, they discuss the state of live music on college campuses (37:25), and delve into the sexual appeal of former Fuel singer Brett Scallions.
In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the new album by blog-rock legends Antlers and Steven heralds the comeback of multi-hyphenate indie-pop star Jay Som (48:45).
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| 0:00.0 | Indycast is presented by Uprox's Indie Mix tape. |
| 0:13.5 | Hello everyone and welcome to Indiecast. |
| 0:15.6 | On this show, we talk about the biggest indie news of the week. |
| 0:18.5 | We review albums and we hash out trends. In this episode, |
| 0:21.8 | we talk about the Taylor Swift backlash of 2025. And we also recommend new albums by The Antlers |
| 0:28.5 | and J-SOM. My name is Stephen Hayden and I'm joined by my friend and co-host. He's going to |
| 0:34.0 | Vegas this weekend to see some emo bands. Does he know at a party or what? |
| 0:38.4 | Ian Cohen. |
| 0:39.7 | Ian, how are you? |
| 0:41.3 | Well, I mean, there are post-hardcore bands as well. |
| 0:44.9 | But I mean, I think one of the things that you miss out on and not being in an office is having to explain to people the music you like or like what you're |
| 0:58.1 | doing. |
| 0:58.5 | So I can either say, hey, I'm going to an emo music festival in Las Vegas. |
| 1:03.6 | No, not that one that happens, I think, next week with when we were young. |
| 1:08.7 | But it's like more like the 90s stuff or, you know, just forget it. |
| 1:12.6 | Like here, look at the lineup. |
| 1:13.7 | Oh, you know who Jimmy Eat World is. |
| 1:15.3 | Great. |
| 1:15.9 | Or I could just like lie and say I'm going to Vegas for the weekend and hope there are no |
| 1:19.4 | follow-up questions and just have them like assume, oh, he's going to like gamble or see |
| 1:23.7 | a show. |
| 1:24.5 | Those are my two choices. |
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