A tale of two soldiers: Can Ukraine actually win?
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 16 April 2024
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Frontline fighters on the Russian threat and the prospects for peace…
Victoria and James are joined by Yaryna, who’s been serving in Ukraine’s armed forces since 2020, and a recent recruit who goes by the call-sign ‘Logan’.
They discuss the current situation on the battle field, whether a new mobilisation law is enough and the prospect of Ukraine failing to win this war.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and James Waterhouse. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Hanna Chornous, Cordelia Hemming and Ivana Davidovic. The technical producer was Dafydd Evans. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts. |
| 0:04.7 | Hello, it's 783 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:10.2 | Today we're going to talk to two Ukrainian soldiers. |
| 0:13.0 | What if Ukraine does lose? |
| 0:15.0 | We will lose our homes. |
| 0:17.0 | All our houses, our apartments will belong to Russians. |
| 0:22.0 | We will be to Russians. We will be captured in Russian prisons. We will be destroyed. |
| 0:29.0 | Can we call this that Ukraine is losing the war if we lose territory. |
| 0:33.4 | Still that's a question. |
| 0:36.4 | What is to lose a war? |
| 0:39.4 | Those are the voices of Yerena Chernahoos, who was first on Ukraine cast back in December |
| 0:45.6 | 2022 and a soldier who goes by the call sign Logan. Now Yerina has been fighting since 2020, actually, whereas Logan has been serving |
| 0:58.9 | for just the last six months. |
| 1:01.6 | And it's interesting to hear from them James why? |
| 1:05.0 | Because this is a difficult moment for Ukraine not just my words Victoria but those of |
| 1:11.0 | General Alexander Serbski the head of Ukraine's military, he's warned |
| 1:15.4 | the battlefield situation in the east of the country has significantly worsened in recent days. |
| 1:21.1 | Not just that, Ukraine's parliament last week passed legislation to help mobilize |
| 1:26.6 | more troops to fight Russia, but is that enough to boost Ukraine's military numbers. |
| 1:33.0 | Iran's missile and drone attack on Israel over the weekend as well, |
| 1:36.3 | once again raising questions over the West's ability |
| 1:39.6 | to focus on Ukraine and the Middle East. |
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