Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

There's been a lot of media coverage and dialogue about the struggles men are facing in the on the Anthony Bradley has a more surprising idea that you don't hear every day, revitalizing college

fraternities.

Anthony is a research fellow and professor and the author of Heroic Fraternities,

how college men can save universities and America.

In the first part of our conversation,

Anthony offers his take on the state of men in the modern day,

the difference between heroic and disordered masculinity,

and the insights that a writer from the mid-20th century can shed on the forms that

disorder can take, and why many men today are choosing the path of resignation.

We then turn to Anthony's idea that college fraternities can be a training ground for virtue.

We talk about the lofty origins of fraternities, why at some universities they devolved into

organizations that become symbolic of the worst traits of masculinity and Anthony's six

principles reviving the potential

fraternities to shape great men. After shows over check at our show notes at

Awim. i.s slash fraternities. All right Anthony Bradley welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

So you are a professor who's spent a lot of time thinking about and writing about men

and the issues they face.

And you've actually, you've taught a course

about the masculine journey.

I'm curious, what sparked your interest

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