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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

A Sunday Sermon with Janaya Future Khan

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Higher Ground

Tv & Film, Film Interviews, Society & Culture

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2021

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

As we mark the one-year anniversary of the 2020 election, activist and educator Janaya Future Khan returns for a state of the union (3:00). We begin with the trillion dollar infrastructure bill (4:08), the looming threat of big tech in Congress (4:58), division in the Democratic party (5:28), and how we can move away from “instant coffee politics” by turning to activism (9:55).

Then, we have a wide-ranging discussion around Dave Chappelle’s stand-up special (13:46), transgender representation (24:31), and what it means to learn (and fail) in public (29:35). In combating the malaise of the moment, Janaya talks about new models of organizing (37:10), the medicinal power of laughter (40:19), and the lessons learned from their decade in Black Lives Matter (44:26). To close, we revisit a passage from our 2020 sit-down (51:16) and why they must (and will) continue to fight in the years ahead (57:00).

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0:00.0

Pushkin

0:09.0

Hey, this is Sam.

0:10.0

If you enjoy our interviews with writers and artists on Talk Easy, then I'd recommend checking

0:14.8

out the podcast Missing Pages. Hosted by acclaimed literary critic and author Beth Ann Patrick,

0:21.5

Missing Pages investigates the biggest hot button topics in the book world today

0:26.4

with the help of special guests like New York Times Best-Selling author Jody Pekle

0:31.3

and publisher weeklies Jim Miliet.

0:33.8

Produced by the people at the Podglamaret,

0:36.1

Missing Pages explores everything from the insta frame of Colleen Hoover

0:40.3

to the rise of book bands across America to the lucrative culture of non-fiction ghost writing.

0:46.0

As both the Washington Post and the Guardian praise,

0:49.0

missing pages is a must listen.

0:52.0

So if you'd like to check it out, you can follow missing pages on

0:55.0

Apple Podcast or wherever you like to listen. This is talk easy. I'm San Frigo, so welcome to the show. So, Today I'm joined by social activists and author Janaya Future Khan.

1:46.4

You may remember them from their first appearance on this program back in December of 2020. It was last year when Janaya, a trans activist born and raised in Toronto,

1:57.6

Ontario, became a leading voice in the Black Lives Matter movement.

2:02.6

As the tragedies continue to unfold, from the murders of Brianna Taylor to George Floyd,

2:08.6

parts of our country participated in what many have called a racial reckoning a painfully overdue public conversation

2:16.5

around how the police actually police and the innumerable racial

2:21.4

inequalities built into the very fabric of American democracy.

2:26.3

Of course, that conversation was insufficient and also incomplete, and in shaping that public discourse,

2:34.0

Janaya created a weekly Sunday sermon on their Instagram.

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