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The Dispatch Podcast

A Strategic Stalemate in Iran

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.6 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Steve Hayes is joined by Jonah Goldberg, Mike Warren, and Mike Nelson to measure the strategic success of the war in Iran so far and discuss the diverging war aims between U.S. and Israel.The Agenda:—Is Iran winning the war?—Trump's shifting rhetoric—Trump's daily video montage briefing—U.S. and Israel's diverging war aims—Bad timing for a shutdown fight—NWYT: The America First awardDispatch Recommendations:—Media’s New Ethical Dilemma: Polymarket and Kalshi—The Gorilla Channel—Meet the Has-Beens, Never-Weres, and Felon Locked in a Trumpy Primary—Will Cuba Be the Next to Fall?Show Notes:—G-File: Two Trump Administrations—Audrey Fahlberg's reporting on Joe Kent Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Steve Hayes. On today's roundtable, we return to Iran.

0:13.2

Is Iran actually winning the war, as some observers claim? Are the United States and Israel on the

0:18.8

same page in their war goals? Does it matter if they are?

0:22.3

Also, is there a worse time for a fight over Homeland Security funding? And finally, not worth your time,

0:28.7

Donald Trump's latest award, the Golden America First Award. Congratulations, Mr. President.

0:35.6

I'm joined today by my dispatch colleagues,

0:37.9

Editor-in-Chief Jonah Goldberg,

0:39.3

senior editor Mike Warren,

0:41.0

and dispatch contributor Mike Nelson.

0:43.7

Let's dive right in.

1:00.7

Mike Nelson, I'm looking here at a tweet from the economist.

1:05.0

A month of bombing Iran has achieved nothing.

1:08.5

Will Donald Trump escalate or talk?

1:13.1

For now, at least, the advantage lies with the Islamic Republic,

1:19.7

and it's got a picture of the cover with someone holding up a map with a ring bearing the flag of the Islamic Republic and the cover line, Advantage, Iran. Now, I'm no military expert, but the United States and Israel has done

1:31.8

tremendous damage to the Iranian military, to its intelligence capabilities, to its leadership

1:38.9

structure. This seems to me way too clever by half. Who's right? I mean, the economist in their, you know,

1:50.0

snarky way of presenting it raised some important issues, but they are, like a lot of people are,

1:55.0

way too catastrophic about the way they're categorizing this. To say it's accomplished nothing

1:59.4

is, you know, patently false.

2:01.7

Particularly when we look at, again, the White House has kind of coalesced around these four

2:07.0

criteria that they're trying to bring about. Two of those are demonstrably, you know,

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