A Strange Use of 'Said.' Kith and Kin. New Scrabble Words!
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4.5 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 25 November 2022
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
903. A listener heard some jargon, and then got annoyed by "said" jargon, so we explored why. Plus, who the heck are your kith? And finally, we got excited about the first new Scrabble words since 2018.
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The "said" segment was written by Susan K. Herman, a former editor, language analyst, and language instructor for the U.S. Government.
The "kith" segment was written by Samantha Enslen, who runs Dragonfly Editorial. You can find her at dragonflyeditorial.com or on Twitter as @DragonflyEdit.
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References for the "kith" segment:
Ammer, Christine. Kith and kin. American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms, 2nd ed. Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2013.
Dent, Suzie. Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, 19th edition. Chambers Harrap, 2013.
Oxford English Dictionary, online edition. Oxford University Press. http://bit.ly/1MExZUo (subscription required, accessed November 23, 2022).
Etymonline (accessed November 23, 2022). https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=kith
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| 0:00.0 | Grammar Girl here. I'm Inyan Fogarty and you can think of me as your friendly guide to |
| 0:10.4 | the English language. We talk about writing, history, rules, and other cool stuff. Today, |
| 0:16.9 | we'll talk about a quirky thing with the word said, who your kith are, and new scrabble |
| 0:22.8 | words you can start using immediately. A follower recently wrote, quote, |
| 0:30.8 | have you ever suddenly come across a certain usage and realized it really bothers you |
| 0:35.7 | and that you hate it? I just noticed one. It's the use of said as an adjective. As in, |
| 0:41.6 | I have a tree in my backyard. Said a tree is very tall. I think that what bothers me |
| 0:47.9 | is that it sounds like pseudo-legalese or cop talk, like what you might see in a police |
| 0:53.2 | report. Also, it's unnecessary. What other antecedent can I be referring to? Have you ever |
| 0:59.2 | addressed, said usage? unquote. Well, we addressed word a version when people have a visceral |
| 1:05.7 | reaction to the sound usage or even sight of a word in 2019. Word a version is different |
| 1:12.9 | from a pet peeve and that it can evoke an emotional or even physical reaction. Check out |
| 1:18.6 | Grammar Girl episode 733, why people hate the word moist for more on that. But in the |
| 1:25.1 | case of the followers question, there's more going on with the use of said as an adjective. |
| 1:30.3 | They're correct that this usage is found mostly in business and legal writing. In this |
| 1:34.7 | sense, it refers to something that was mentioned earlier. According to the site Grammarist, |
| 1:39.7 | quote, it's essentially a brief replacement of words like a forementioned and a foresaid |
| 1:45.5 | unquote. Well, it's usually a good idea to use simpler, shorter words. In this case, |
| 1:51.3 | it may sound awkward to some people like our follower. And in most cases, said could be |
| 1:56.4 | replaced with it, the this, these, or even removed with no effect on the meaning. Take |
| 2:03.1 | the example from the original question, I have a tree in my backyard. Said tree is very |
| 2:09.2 | tall. You could simply say, I have a tree in my backyard. It is very tall or just I have |
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