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From the media, from the schools, from the politicians, all we ever hear these days is how

important it is to encourage people to transition their gender when they feel the inkling that

they ought to transition their gender. Doesn't matter what age they are, doesn't matter

what other issues are going on in their lives. Doesn't matter if the children are children,

are really little children. If a little boy says, I am really a little girl or a little

girl says, I am really a little boy. The new prevailing consensus is we must put them

on chemicals, possibly put them through surgery, stop puberty, try to reverse puberty. There

is no stopping that. As a result, some people who have had these kinds of procedures pushed

upon them or who have engaged in them, apparently willingly, have wanted to reverse them. You're

seeing this trend spike up now. Even as the laws in some places make it illegal to prevent

kids from going through these processes. One of the people who has transitioned and detransitioned

is Helena Kirschner. Helena Kirschner is a 23-year-old detransitioned woman. She began

to transition shortly after her 18th birthday and has now transitioned back quite an

Odyssey. Helena, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you very much for having

me. We don't have a ton of time. I wish we could speak for four or five hours. I have

about a thousand questions for you. I'll start at the very beginning. What was it right

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