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the memory palace

A Story and a Song (A Memory Palace/Song Exploder Crossover Event)

the memory palace

Nate DiMeo

Natedimeo, Publicradio, Radiotopia, History

4.87.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

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Music

  • Halcyon and Photosynteses and Embryo by H. Takehashi
  • Intro by Library Tapes
  • The Florist Wears Knee Breeches by M. Sage

Notes

  • I found Andrew Isenberg's book, The Destruction of the Bison, An Environmental History, completely fascinating.
  • If you want to do a deep dive on Madison Grant, I'd recommend Defending the Master Race: Conservation, Eugenics, and the Legacy of Madison Grant by John Peter Spiro.
  • If you want to do a deep dive on the Catalina Buffalo, this site is a fun place to start.
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Transcript

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0:00.0

Last weekend, I was standing on a bluff above the ocean, and I felt one of my very favorite feelings.

0:09.0

It's this feeling that I love so much that I have come to realize that I tell these stories here on the Memory Palace,

0:16.0

largely because I'm chasing that feeling, maybe trying to conjure in others too.

0:24.7

It's a thing that happens to me, and honestly, maybe only me.

0:26.4

You may not relate to this at all.

0:33.8

But sometimes I'm flooded with the sense of the past and the present overlaying on top of each other in the same space.

0:40.4

I'm suddenly aware of myself there in the present moment as just one person living one life in the flow of time. It is heady and kind of dorky, but I love it so much. It happens most often

0:47.8

when I am returning to a place, as I did on this particular weekend, on this particular bluff in

0:52.9

Rancho Palace Verdes, a town on the Southern California coast. And so there, on this particular weekend, on this particular bluff in Rancho Palace Verdes, a town on the

0:54.9

Southern California coast. And so there, on this perfect California day, looking down and out and across

1:01.6

the water from up there on this bluff, I had both a sense of that place's history, about how

1:06.9

the resort where we were staying was once an amusement park called Marine Land, and was there for decades until SeaWorld, its main competitor a couple hours down the road in San Diego,

1:16.6

was denied a permit from the United States government to capture any more live orcas.

1:21.6

And so they went to marine land and bought not just both the orcas that it had on display at the park,

1:28.1

but the whole park along with it and shut it down.

1:32.0

Then I thought about how the hills and the fields around that spot

1:35.1

were farmed by Japanese immigrants for nearly a hundred years,

1:39.5

except for the ones in which those farmers were sent to concentration camps

1:43.2

by that same United States

1:44.4

government. But how before that it was all ranchland for horses and cows, all owned by an

1:51.9

Easter land baron come west to extend his empire. Now before that it had been the land of the Tongva,

1:58.5

who had fished and foraged and raised their kids there.

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