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🗓️ 25 October 2022
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0:00.0 | I'm Ezra Klein. This is the Ezra Conchell. |
0:24.0 | America has a two-party system. And if you go by the language we use, we've had the same |
0:29.6 | two-party system since the mid-1800s. Republicans and Democrats, that is the essential, |
0:36.0 | unchanging competition, the Define's American politics. But the stability of that language |
0:41.6 | obscures really big upheavals in what those parties are. Democrats were once the party |
0:47.0 | of racist hierarchy. Later, they became the party of civil rights in Barack Obama. Republicans |
0:52.0 | were once the party of Abraham Lincoln. Later, they became the party of reaction and Jesse |
0:56.4 | Helms. But you don't just have to look on the timescale of centuries. This, what we |
1:02.5 | are in right now, has been an era of profound party change. The Republican Party of George |
1:07.9 | W. Bush is not the Republican Party of Donald Trump. Hell, the Republican Party of Paul Ryan, |
1:13.0 | which existed during the Republican Party of Donald Trump, is not the Republican Party |
1:16.9 | of Donald Trump. If Republicans win in 2022, and even more so in 2024, the Republican Party |
1:24.7 | that will take power then will be different than the one that took power in 2017. That |
1:30.4 | was a party in uneasy coalition with Donald Trump and the forces he represented and channeled. |
1:36.6 | Now Donald Trump is the establishment of the Republican Party. He is its power broker. |
1:41.5 | He is its center. Power in the party flows from his favor. If many Republicans, I think |
1:47.4 | probably most elected Republicans in 2017 wanted to use Donald Trump to their ends in 2022, |
1:54.8 | they are eager to be used by him for his ends. What does it mean for that party to win power? |
2:00.0 | What even is that party? This year, Mark LeBavitch, a staff writer at the Atlantic, published |
2:05.6 | a unique book on the Trump era. It's one that hit a side of it that has been the most |
2:11.5 | fascinating to me personally. Thank you for your servitude, his book, isn't about Donald |
2:16.7 | Trump. It is about the Republicans who bent the knee to him. It is about why they did it |
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