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Indiecast

A State Of Music Criticism Address + New Music By Billy Woods And Alien Boy

Indiecast

UPROXX

Music, Indie Music, Music Commentary, Indie Rock

4.8602 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Steven and Ian open today with a quick TV-cast on the latest episode of The Rehearsal, which is some of the finest Evanescence-related content you will ever see. (0:13) (They also pivot briefly to a Movie-cast about Sinners.) (10:20) From there, they update the Fantasy Album Draft to talk about the great new album by Billy Woods, Golliwog, which is wowing critics. (14:00) They also briefly touch on the new Arcade Fire record, which Ian has not heard yet so the longer conversation is tabled for next week. (18:56) Then they pivot to a talk about two inside-baseball music criticism topics — a recent IG post by the band Tennis railing against the treatment of their records from critics, (26:31) and Steven's interview this week with top YouTube music critic Anthony Fantano. (40:13)

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about aughts-era band The Ponys upon the passing of drummer Nathan Jerde, and Steven stumps for the Portland band Alien Boy. (50:57)

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0:00.0

Indycast is presented by Uprox's Indie Mix tape.

0:13.5

Hello everyone and welcome to Indycast on the show we talk about the biggest indie news of the week, review albums, and we hash out trends.

0:20.4

In this episode, we talk about

0:21.8

the state of music criticism. Oh my God, you know the people are waiting for that. My name is

0:27.3

Stephen Hayden, and I'm joined by my friend and co-host. I wonder if he knew that Sully Sullenberger

0:32.4

is an F&Fs fan. Ian Cohen, Ian, who are you? What I didn't realize is that Sully

0:39.7

Sullenberger was from Texas and not Boston. I didn't know they let you call yourself Sully

0:44.8

if you're not from Boston. That's like finding out like John Fogart. He's not actually from the

0:49.0

bayou. Also, if he's going to be into like a new metal band from that era, why not the one with

0:55.4

Sully as the lead singer? Like, does Sully Sullenberger mess with Godsmack? I mean, I don't know.

1:01.4

I would talk to know that. Well, I mean, apparently he's into a lot of music. He's also into

1:06.5

Cheryl Crow, soak up the sun. Yes. Which for me is outside the golden era of Cheryl Crow.

1:14.2

I would say like those first three records.

1:18.0

The Tuesday night music club, the self-title record, and then the Globe Sessions.

1:24.8

That's Prime.

1:25.6

Cheryl Crow, once again to the Come On, come on era, a little weaker, but I appreciate Sully digging in deep.

1:32.1

I think Soak Up the Sun is the most influential, like, one of the most influential songs of that era.

1:38.1

Like, so much indie music sounds exactly like it.

1:41.1

Yeah, I suppose.

1:42.9

I mean, that's definitely on the pop your side of what she does.

1:45.6

I mean, I feel like if it makes you happy is a big one. Also, yeah. That's, that's her best song.

1:52.6

That's her leading into like the Rolling Stone side of what she does. And I'm a big fan

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