“A State In Constant War” - America's Interventionism Will LEAD To It's Collapse
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🗓️ 31 October 2025
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Patrick Bet-David and Glenn Greenwald face off on interventionism vs. non-interventionism, breaking down America’s endless wars, global overreach, and why U.S. elites profit while the middle class collapses. From Venezuela to Ukraine, they expose the real cost of empire and the hypocrisy of “spreading democracy.”
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| 0:00.0 | interventionist and non-interventionist, okay? |
| 0:04.3 | The argument for both sides, right? |
| 0:06.2 | When you think about, hey, I'm a interventionist, I'm a non-interventionist, what is the benefit |
| 0:12.6 | of either? |
| 0:13.9 | Like if you were to say, this is why people become interventionist, this is why they make |
| 0:17.5 | the argument of non-interventionists, what would you say this? |
| 0:20.9 | I'm, to be perfectly honest, after everything I've lived through, and I guess my adult |
| 0:24.9 | child, you know, my adult life in terms of political perception is formed by 9-11 and its aftermath, |
| 0:30.3 | it's very hard for me to make a case for interventionism, either from the perspective of |
| 0:34.5 | benefiting the United States or benefiting the countries in which |
| 0:37.8 | we're intervening. I think everybody ends off worse, except for a tiny little sliver of military |
| 0:43.7 | industrial complex, the U.S. intelligence community, the government, global elites. I think those |
| 0:49.0 | who benefits from this constant globalistic effort to try and interfere in the world, intervene in the world. |
| 0:55.4 | I could make a lot of arguments for why. I think Venezuela is a good case now where, you know, |
| 1:00.1 | those wars being sold on all the standard grounds. Oh, Maduro is uniquely evil. And, you know, |
| 1:04.9 | he's going to pass WMD to the United States and kill us, but not WMD, but drugs. |
| 1:14.4 | You know, it's all the same, same rationale. And then, you know, of course, we could go in and take out Maduro. It wouldn't be that hard if we want to fight a war. We did it in Panama. It would be harder than that. But we could still do it, of course, kill thousands of Venezuelans. and at the end of the day, we're going to impose this puppet regime. |
| 1:26.1 | We're going to be responsible for it. |
| 1:27.3 | We're going to fund it. |
| 1:27.9 | We're going to fund all the overflow of instability and civil war and migration problems that are going to happen all throughout the region, including probably for the United States. And so, you know, you can say, oh, look, we got rid of Saddam and we're so happy because he was a bad guy, which he is. |
| 1:44.7 | But look at all the harm it did for the United States. |
| 1:46.1 | Oh, we got rid of Maduro. |
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