And So, Wayne I was going to say we were just chatting off air that the most disgraceful

performance of the weekend was my son's under sevens losing

ten one.

Ten one.

But I was thinking of calling for the manager's head after that. I mean really you should resign shouldn't you?

But perhaps United's performance against Crystal Palace at Old Trafford was even worse.

What do your thoughts?

Well I didn't see the 10 one. I've only got you in reports and you were not very happy.

See, probably the most objective person in this conversation for that. So I'll wait until the official

reports come out from that game. I was holding on for Spers failing to beat Liverpool with nine men and they went and did it.

So unfortunately we do have to confront the fact that united or regressing to something that we are familiar with seeing from them and

lovely I don't know what's saying in terms of we are too familiar with this

for it not to be a surprise but sometimes and I think it's just

the perennial thing we all do as supporters you hope for better and when you get that hope like a trophy win and the manager is

he's ruling with an iron fist and it seems to be having some effect.

You see those green shoots and even you tolerate the odd seven-nill defeat to

Liverpool in there and you think, all right, well things are still moving on.

No need for that. things are still moving on no need for that things are

still moving in the right show yeah no sorry the upset it bleep bleep yeah so you hope

that things are moving in the right direction and the someone pointed out to me on

to it in a really, really good comparison. This felt a lot like Norwich, when Norwich came to all Trafford and one to one

when Vanguard was a manager yeah and it was I don't think it was that bad but the

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