Hello, I'm Yonit Lavey of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.

And I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.

And we are unholy two Jews on the News from Keshet podcast.

Hello, Jonathan.

Hello, Yonit.

How are you doing?

I'm fine.

I just feel like it should be the other way around this week.

Like, you should be in Tel Aviv and I should be in London or the whole thing should be.

It's just the world is upside down.

They're like, it's freezing cold here.

It's like 10 degrees outside. It's raining and it's

gray. I didn't sign up for this stuff. And you're like, it's like a sunshiny day over there in London.

I know. I don't want to rub it in, but it is actually properly sunny here. And still, you know,

there's still a little bit of a chill in the air by your standards. It's not quite flip-flops weather, but I have looked at

my shorts. I'm not saying I've put them on, but I've looked at them and I've thought they're

there, and that didn't seem plausible before. The sun is shining. The sky is blue. And, you know,

it's a strange sort of feelings because on one level, and this is partly personal because, as we

have discussed many times, we are both emerging from having had COVID.

That includes me and emerging, in my case, for two years working on this book that I've been working on very intensely.

So all of this has come together where I feel I'm emerging into springtime and back into the world and into life.

And yet, there's a slightly guilty feeling. I don't know whether

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