Hey Christopher Kimball here. We have an interview coming out soon about restaurant gap relationships,

and we want to hear your stories. Do you spend all your time scrolling through reservation apps

while your partner couldn't care less? Or maybe you dump your date for being a picky eater,

or maybe one of you loves to eat out and the other doesn't. So to share your story, please leave us a voicemail.

The number 617-249-3167. One more time, 617-249-31-67, or send us a voice memo to Radio Tips at

175 Milkstreet.com.

I'm Christopher Kimball, and this is a special episode of Milk Street Radio.

Today, it's an extended cut of my interview with Hannah Selinger about her tell-all memoir,

Sellerat.

She worked in restaurants for over a decade, first as a server,

and then as a smolier. Hannah, welcome to Milkstreet. Thank you so much for having me.

This is a great story, Sellerat. But I have a question to start. The restaurant industry is known for the rough part of the job, right?

It's kind of abusive.

The drugs is just alcohol.

You fell in love with this business.

You said because it was beautiful and glossy, but then you discover the, you know,

the dark underbelly.

Was that a surprise to you, or did you sort of half expect that it was going to be this way?

I think it's sort of that case of, I didn't think the leopard was going to eat my face.

Good answer.

You know, I certainly knew the leopards were out there, but the leopard eating your face is sort of, it's a very distant, far-off problem.

And then when it starts happening to you, it's sort of like, oh, aha, I see why so many people find this problematic.

...