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Deadline: White House

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Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Versant, Ms Now, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Alicia Menendez – in for Nicolle Wallace – on the division in the Republican Party as Trump’s megabill reaches the Senate floor, continued ICE raids in Los Angeles stoking fear, and the Trump administration's plan to build a national citizenship data system. Joined by: Vaughn Hillyard, Charlie Sykes, Cornell Belcher, Angelo Carusone, Jacob Soboroff, Andrea Flores, Sen. Cory Booker, Eddie Glaude, Kim Atkins Stohr, Marc Elias, John Hudson, and Justin Wolfers.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's 4 o'clock here in Washington, D.C. I'm Alicia Menendez in for Nicole Wallace.

0:10.1

Quote, utterly insane and destructive, quote, an unhappy episode. The reviews are in, and even Republicans and their allies are warning about the consequences of Trump's so-called big,

0:21.2

beautiful bill. At this hour, the Senate is in the middle of a marathon voting session, taking up

0:26.9

amendments to the bill for members of both parties. The goal, to pass the bill later today.

0:32.8

And rarely, if ever, have members of a political party seemed so glum on the eve of passing major legislation.

0:40.4

With Democrats unified in their opposition to the bill, Republicans can only lose four votes.

0:46.3

And right now, at least two GOP senators have said they will be voting no.

0:50.8

They are Rand Paul of Kentucky, Senator Tom Tillis of North Carolina.

0:55.3

While Rand Paul's opposition to the bill is based on the fact that it would add $3.3 trillion

1:00.3

to the national debt, that's according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office,

1:05.3

Tillis has been vocal about the nearly $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid, cuts that would kick roughly 12 million people

1:12.4

off of the program that is also according to the CBO. Tillis, who was considered one of the most

1:18.6

vulnerable Republican senators in next year's midterms, announced that he would not run for

1:23.8

re-election, and then slam the bill on the floor of the Senate last night.

1:30.1

So what do I tell 663,000 people in two years or three years? When President Trump breaks this promise

1:39.4

by pushing them off of Medicaid because the funding's not there. Now, Republicans are about to make a mistake on health care and betraying a promise.

1:52.0

It is inescapable that this bill in its current form will betray the very promise that Donald

2:00.0

J. Trump made in the Oval Office or in the cabinet

2:03.8

room when I was there with finance where he said we can go after waste, fraud, and abuse on any

2:10.3

programs.

2:12.4

Tillis is not alone.

2:13.8

Trump's single biggest political benefactor in the 2024 election, Elon Musk, is resuming

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