Are we yes? Where are we here? Why are we here not entirely clear? We are misfits

thrust into existence by random chance with no hints at all as to how we're supposed

to make sense of it all. It's immensely bizarre. Here we are.

Hello everybody and welcome to the here we are podcast. I am so excited. You guys are

excited. Haven't done a COVID episode in in a couple months for no reason in particular.

It's just the way that it works out sometimes and I know in the discord on the message boards

and stuff you guys have been asking for another one. So this is actually we don't have an

academic today. We have a journalist joining us today. I'm very, very excited. Author of

the new book, which just came out yesterday at the time that this podcast is releasing.

It is a shot to save the world. The inside story of the life or death race for a COVID-19

vaccine. Gregory Zuckerman is joining us today. Gregory, thank you so much for joining

the show. Oh, it's a lot of fun. Thank you for having me.

We figured out Bluetooth together. This is it's been Gregory. I used to record every

single one of my podcasts in person a little background. I am by trade a stand up comedian.

I also do science communication as well. But I started this podcast when I was touring

around. I would look up local universities and be like, oh, that seems like an interesting

topic and go and talk to scientists about it as like a phone little hobby. And then

it turned into the thing that I care about more than comedy. And so normally, we would

have been doing this in person. And since COVID, I've been dealing with tech issues every

single week and teaching various people how to use headphones and things like that. And

so we both got to learn a bunch. We all have a contribution to make this one. Do you

find that you can get a scientist try to make jokes with you and try to impress you

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