I've been really interested lately in thinking about asking a question that's often really hard to answer, which is why?

Why is there so much trans misogyny? Why is there violence against trans women?

You know, not just how does it happen? Who does it? Under what circumstances? But why?

And as a historian, I think it often ends up being a kind of radical point to just say,

like, no, these things aren't perennial or evergreen or inherent in human psychology or as vague

as just like the natural consequence of the social order that we live in. They had to be invented.

You know, trans misogyny had to be invented. People had to be incited and taught how to engage in these dynamics that are familiar to us. And it took a long time to build the kind of crushing trans misogynistic world that we live in today. Today. The Welcome to the Deaf Panel.

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at death panel underscore. So as usual, I'm BeHs Adler Bolton and today I am here with my co-host,

Jules Gil Peterson. Hello, I'm sure you can hear that I have the most gigantic, goofiest smile

on my face right now. Same and I'm so excited to be here with you today, Jules, because today we get to celebrate the

release of your new book.

And this is the place to do it.

I've been so looking forward to this.

This feels like the real debut.

Yeah.

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