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10% Happier with Dan Harris

A Serious Case for Humor | Jennifer Aaker & Naomi Bagdonas

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.612.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2022

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

A common denominator among all of the great meditation teachers is a sense of humor. They take the teaching seriously, but they don't take themselves seriously. So perhaps there's a link between human flourishing and humor. That's not to say you have to be hilarious in order to be happy, but it clearly helps a great deal not to take yourself so seriously. And it turns out that humor is a skill.

 

Jennifer Aaker and Naomi Bagdonas co-teach a course at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, called, "Humor: Serious Business." They also co-authored a book called, Humor, Seriously: Why Humor Is a Secret Weapon in Business and Life (and How Anyone Can Harness It. Even You.)

 

Dr. Jennifer Aaker is the General Atlantic Professor at the Stanford Graduate School of Business whose work has been published in leading scientific journals and featured in The Economist, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, and Science. Naomi Bagdonas is a lecturer at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and an executive coach. She trained formally at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre, teaches improv in San Francisco's county jail, and performs in comedy venues.

 

This episode explores:

  • Why Naomi and Jennifer say we've fallen off a humor cliff
  • The four main humor styles and how to figure out which is yours
  • When self-deprecation works, and when it doesn't
  • How to conduct a humor audit
  • How to sign off your emails 
  • The relationship between humor and status
  • The connection between humor and love
  • A taxonomy of workplace humor
  • The different types of humor fails, and what to do about them

 

Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/jennifer-aaker-naomi-bagdonas-423

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the 10% happier podcast.

0:05.4

I'm Dan Harris.

0:09.0

Hey, everybody, apologies if you've heard my rap on this subject before, but as you

0:14.8

all know, a huge part of my job is interviewing highly attained meditation teachers and

0:19.8

masters and a common denominator among all of the guests I have found is a sense of humor.

0:27.4

They take the teaching seriously, but they don't take themselves seriously.

0:31.2

So there's clearly some sort of link between human flourishing and humor.

0:36.7

That is not to say that you have to be hilarious in order to be happy, but again, it clearly

0:40.9

helps a great deal not to take yourself so seriously.

0:45.0

As it turns out, like pretty much everything we talk about on this show, humor is a skill.

0:51.1

So that's the good news.

0:52.8

My guests today are here to elaborate on this.

0:56.1

Teach us the skill.

0:56.9

They co-teach a course, in fact, at the Stanford Graduate School of Business called Humor,

1:02.6

Sirius Business.

1:03.6

They also recently co-authored a book called Humor Seriously, Why Humor is a Superpower

1:08.8

at Work and in Life.

1:10.7

Dr. Jennifer Ocker is the general Atlantic professor at the Stanford Graduate School of

1:15.8

Business and a leading expert on how purpose and meaning shape individual choices and how

1:21.5

technology can positively impact both human well-being and company growth.

1:27.8

Her work has been published in leading scientific journals and featured in the Economist, The

1:31.6

New York Times, Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, and Science.

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