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The Daily

A Self-Perpetuating Cycle of Wildfires

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

When many in California talk about this year’s wildfires, they describe the color — the apocalyptic, ominous, red-orange glow in the sky. The state’s current wildfires have seen two and a half million acres already burned. Climate change has made conditions ripe for fires: Temperatures are higher and the landscape drier. But the destruction has also become more acute because of the number of homes that are built on the wildland-urban interface — where development meets wild vegetation. The pressures of California’s population have meant that towns are encouraged to build in high-risk areas. And when a development is ravaged by a fire, it is often rebuilt, starting the cycle of destruction over again. Today, we explore the practice of building houses in fire zones and the role insurance companies could play in disrupting this cycle. Guest: Christopher Flavelle, who covers the impact of global warming on people, governments and industries for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily Background reading: “People are always asking, ‘Is this the new normal?’” a climate scientist said. “I always say no. It’s going to get worse.” If climate change was an abstract notion a decade ago, today it is all too real for Californians.Research suggests that most Americans support restrictions on building homes in fire- or flood-prone areas.

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From the New York Times, I'm Michael Babaro.

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This is the Daily.

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Today, wildfires are ravaging the West with California, Oregon, Washington and Colorado,

0:49.5

all facing record fire seasons.

0:52.8

My colleague, Chris Flavell, on the cycle of building and rebuilding that is making the

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annual fires so destructive.

1:04.3

It's Friday, September 11th.

1:19.6

The fires this year really get bad starting in mid-August.

1:49.4

The top of the year is 11000 lightning strikes.

1:52.7

The bottom usually houses hundreds of anges here.

1:59.6

Creatively came out of control.

2:02.6

The governor of California declared a state of emergency today.

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Right now there's more than 2.5 million acres that are burned in California alone.

2:17.6

It was like the entire wall of the forest was just coming out of the road.

2:22.6

I looked up at the back of my house and was on fire.

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