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In March of 2025, a few dozen white nationalists from across the country gathered at a

castle in the mountains.

The meeting itself wasn't really a secret. It had been announced

months ahead of time. But it was a private event, and the location was a closely guarded secret,

shared only with those on the invite list. At a lectern adorned with a golden eagle, and flanked

by flags, spreading fashies and lightning bolts, speeches were made by movement

leaders spanning generations, men in their 70s, nearing the end of their decades-long careers

as white nationalist organizers, and men in their 20s, looking ahead to the movement's future.

During an afternoon break between speeches, the keynote speaker took off a suit jacket

and bowelot tie to oversee a shirtless bare-knuckle boxing match on the lawn. The American

Freedom Party has changed its logo, its leadership, and even its name over the 15 years since

it was first founded as the American third position party.

But they are still who they've always been.

A handful of racist and suits, whose inability to properly fill out paperwork, keeps getting in the way of their dreams of a white ethno state.

I'm Molly Conger, and this is Weird Little Guys.

When we left off last week, we were talking about the strange winding road that led a white nationalist group called the American Third Physician Party to run a failed filmmaker for president in 2012.

By his own account, Merlin Miller had never been all that interested in politics,

that is, until he had his political awakening after 9-11.

He'd been trying unsuccessfully to sell the distribution rights to his second film,

a western called Jericho, when he met a man who had served aboard the USS Liberty in 1967,

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