meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Story Collider

A Science Journalist Tries to Hack Heartbreak | From A Slight Change of Plans

The Story Collider

Story Collider, Inc.

Arts, Science, Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Performing Arts

4.4824 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

When her twenty-five year marriage unexpectedly fell apart, science writer Florence Williams (author of Heartbreak) felt shocked and blindsided. Such heartbreak led to a new range of intense feelings and, trained as a journalist, Florence set out on a journey to understand the science of heartbreak. She tried novel forms of therapy, immersed herself in nature, and consulted cutting-edge research on the science of awe. But her greatest discovery came when she tried an alternative to “hacking” heartbreak. This episode is from A Slight Change of Plans, hosted by cognitive scientist and bestselling author Dr. Maya Shankar. On A Slight Change of Plans, Maya explores how we experience change and provides strategies we can use to better navigate moments of upheaval. Whether it’s a sudden pivot or a slow transformation, each episode reveals how change can give us an opportunity to reimagine who we are and unlock greater possibility. Find A Slight Change of Plans wherever you get podcasts. 

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hey listeners, if you come to story clutter to hear stories at the intersection of personal experiences and scientific discovery, stories that you can really sit with and learn from.

0:11.7

This episode from our friends at a slight change of plans will instantly feel familiar.

0:16.9

Science writer Florence Williams was blindsided when her marriage of 25 years abruptly ended.

0:23.6

This experience with Heartbreak, which she wrote about in her aptly titled audiobook, Heartbreak, led her to an entirely new range of feelings.

0:32.0

Ever the journalist, Florence set out on a journey to understand the science of heartbreak and heal herself in the process.

0:38.7

She tried novel forms of therapy, immersed herself in nature, and consulted cutting-edge

0:43.4

research on the science of awe. But her greatest discovery came when she tried an alternative

0:48.9

to quote-unquote hacking heartbreak. Like story clutter, the tales on a slight change of plans can be

0:55.4

touching, funny, or sad, but they're always inspiring. At its core, the show is all about our

1:01.4

shared experiences and how those experiences shape us as humans. It's hosted by Dr. Maya Shankar, a

1:08.1

cognitive behavioral scientist and best-selling author who explores who we become

1:12.4

in the face of change, and how we can better navigate moments of upheaval and why change might

1:17.4

just give us an opportunity to unlock great possibilities. Enjoy the episode. If you like what you

1:23.3

hear, find a slight change of plans wherever you get your podcasts.

1:48.1

It was my first day of college. I had just arrived, and he had started this freshman outdoor orientation trip where we were going hiking in the mountains. And he had rock climbing muscles and a bandana

1:56.7

around his head. And I mean, I think instantly there was a little bit of chemistry there.

2:03.6

That's science journalist Florence Williams.

2:06.7

The instant spark she's describing turned into a decades-long marriage.

2:11.0

But that marriage unraveled when Florence was 50.

2:14.7

The breakup cracked her open.

2:16.7

And what followed was an outpouring of new and disorienting

2:20.0

feelings. When the person you consider sort of your safety net, like your primary attachment

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Story Collider, Inc., and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Story Collider, Inc. and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.