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A Sad State Of Foreign Affairs - Working Audio

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4.6 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.politix.fm

Special announcement from Matt and Brian: We will be hosting a live chat during Thursday night’s debate for paid Politix subscribers. If you’d like to ride shotgun with us, or need moral support to get through the event, be on the lookout for an email invitation to joint the chat just as the debate begins at 9 p.m. ET Thursday.

In that spirit, for this week’s regular episode, Matt and Brian rattled off a few debate predictions—listen for those and see how well they hold up. But mostly this is an episode about the incoherence and opportunism of the Trump/MAGA foreign policy vision.

* Is there any way to make sense of Trump’s biggest global affairs interventions?

* To what extent has Biden been reaping the consequences of Trump’s bluster and blunders?

* What do people like J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Robert O’Brien, et al—people who want to ride Trump’s coattails—think they’re getting out of Trump’s foreign policy of self-aggrandizement and predation?

Then, behind the paywall, a longer discussion about how the nature of Trump’s foreign-policy corruption makes the world more ungovernable, even when he’s out of power. To what extent have foreign autocrats made decisions about war and trade and diplomacy with an eye toward helping Trump return to power? Is it even possible for the world to run through official channels when the leader of a major U.S. political party has a shadow cabinet trotting the globe soliciting favors and bribes? And are there signs that Trump’s autocratic partners around the world have grown wary of the risk of using Trump to advance their interests and degrade democracy?

All that, plus the full Politix archive and Thursday’s live chat are available to paid subscribers—just upgrade your subscription and pipe full episodes directly to your favorite podcast app via your own private feed.

Further reading:

* Ross Douthat’s interview with J.D. Vance.

* Brian on why right-wing leaders around might be more tempted to engage in foreign mischief when the U.S. president is a liberal Democrat rather than a Republican kleptocrat.

* Matt on the foreign policy bombs Trump set.

* Trump-loyalist Robert O’Brien admits his and Trump’s China policy failed.

Transcript

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0:14.8

Biden, as you said, has been dealing for his full term with Trump's crazy corrupt foreign policy decisions and like all of it is made more complicated by the fact that Trump a screwed things up when he was president and B is now corruptly intervening to make peace less likely or make at least order less likely. In this episode we'll offer up a few predictions for the upcoming Trump-Biden debate, but really

0:35.8

we're here to discuss Geo strategy.

0:39.8

Very sexy stuff.

0:41.1

There's a lot to cover, but broadly speaking we'll talk about Donald Trump's biggest first-term foreign policy moves, what he says he wants to do in his second term, and how both of those things along with his well-earned reputation for personal corruption

0:56.5

have scrambled the diplomatic game board and made things just more complicated than they used to be. I hope you enjoy the conversation and if you

1:05.1

want to hear the whole thing you can upgrade your subscription to paid at politics.

1:08.9

FM.

1:10.3

Hey everyone. Welcome to the politics podcast. I'm Brian Boiler.

1:17.0

I'm Matthew Iglesias. We have a debate coming up on Thursday so just as a bit of

1:20.8

housekeeping when during the debate, our paid subscribers can watch

1:28.0

along with me and Matt and we'll chat with you about what's happening on the TV.

1:32.2

That should be very exciting, very stressful, pleasant

1:35.2

experience all around. Then immediately after Matt and I will record an episode of

1:39.0

the podcast and we'll give that episode to the whole list, free paid whatever, everyone will have access to it and so you should look for that Thursday night on the later side or maybe when you wake up on Friday.

1:51.0

But before that, Matt, do you have predictions for what we can expect

1:55.7

to see on Thursday? You know, I mean, I think Trump and Biden are going to really kind of dig

2:00.1

into the literature on tariff incidents,

2:03.4

trying to understand who pays and what the exchange rate impacts are.

2:08.0

No, I mean, I think, so you can start to see already that after several months of talking about how Joe Biden has seen

2:17.7

aisle, as you can clearly tell from deceptively edited video clips, they've flipped back to the fact that,

2:24.8

well, he's going to be hopped up on drugs.

2:27.6

And that's why at every high profile performance,

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