A Russian Coup Against Putin? (Bonus Pod!)

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Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

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🗓️ 25 June 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Ben and Tommy talk about the extraordinary failed coup attempt against Vladimir Putin by Yevgeny Prigozhin and the Wagner mercenary group in Russia. They cover the infighting that got Russia to this point, what it means for Putin’s image and power, the amnesty deal that ended the insurrection and why Belarus was involved, and what it’s like at the White House when a crisis like this happens.

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0:00.0	[♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪
0:10.7	Welcome back to Pads A of the World, I'm Tommy Vittor.
0:12.7	I'm Ben Rhodes.
0:13.7	And we are back here at Saturday afternoon.
0:16.7	We're recording a mini episode.
0:18.8	I don't even take all of that.
0:20.0	Because it's been a pretty wild 24 hours in Russia.
0:23.2	You and I were texting in the midst of this ongoing sort of maybe coup.
0:28.2	It might be over.
0:28.9	We'll explain in a second that this is one of the crazier things, I think,
0:31.6	either of us had seen in foreign policy in our lives.
0:35.4	Yeah, Russia's having a total normal one, Tommy.
0:38.5	But we said at the beginning of this war in February 22,
0:42.4	when you launched a major war, you never know what's going to happen.
0:45.4	And Putin didn't bargain for this, but here we are.
0:49.1	No, he certainly didn't.
0:50.0	OK, so here's what happened.
0:51.0	So on Friday, a man named Gennie Prugosin,
0:54.8	who is the founder of the Wagner Mercenary Group,
0:57.8	and a Russian oligarch.
0:59.2	And in once a close ally of Vladimir Putin,
1:01.9	decided to take his private army of about 25,000 men
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