we're so glad that you've tuned in to pardon the mess we're parents just like you doing our best

to raise kids who will love and follow christ we hope you will join us and our guests each week

for honest conversations about the good bad and ugly of raising kids. There's no perfect parents, just a perfect God

who stands ready to pardon our mess and guide us on the most challenging yet rewarding journey,

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the Mess. This is Cynthia Yanov, your host. As always, I'm so grateful that you are here with us today. Today we get a word with Lisa Harper and she's awesome. I love Lisa Harper. Lisa has done a whole lot of stuff in her life over the years, not the least of which is writing several books. She's written Bible study curriculum. She's worked for Focus on the family on their national women's ministry.

She was also on the Women of Faith National Arena Tour for eight years, and she has spoken

at many, many, many churches all over the world throughout her years. She lives in Nashville,

and she calls it the boonies of Nashville, and you might be able to tell that today because part

of the reception is a little bit delayed, but it will still be well worth your listen, I promise. But she lives there with what she

considers her greatest accomplishment, her little daughter, Misty, that she has adopted, and we will

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