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It's Kathy Swartz, your celebrity mentor, back with my fabulous podcast producer, Heather.

And let's get right back into some more of these celebrity divorce headline stories.

Well, this one is, this person is no stranger to the headlines.

Kate Gosselin compares current drama with Sun Colin

to the negative energy she's faced in the past.

And wow, Kate Gosselin has faced quite a bit of negativity.

Obviously, we're talking about Kate from the hit TV show back on TLC,

the Kate Plus 8, John and Kate Plus 8 before that, before she got divorced.

So right now, Colin is, you know, starting to do the press circuit for his book.

But it says, Kate Goslin is adamantly in good spirits, despite her ongoing estrangement from

son Colin ahead of the release of his tell-all memoir.

In the comments of Kate's Tuesday TikTok upload about life in the Wild Wild West homestead,

a social media user apologized if negative energy had affected the reality TV alum.

And she responded, uh, I am and I'm fine. This is honestly small compared

to what me and my other kids have been through back in the day. Obviously, Kate shares twins,

Maddie and Kara, who are both 25, um, and sex tuplets, Colin, Joel, Aden, Hannah, Alexis, Leah,

all 22 with ex-husband John Gosselin.

Hearing their ages, first of all, freaks me out because I was a very big time watcher of

John and Kate Plus 8, and I watched those babies be fed, like, sitting up in high chairs.

So the fact that the youngest are now 22 is

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