A Real Conversation With Gov. Josh Shapiro
Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
The Ringer
4.7 • 11.5K Ratings
🗓️ 14 March 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | My kids told me I couldn't wear all black sneaks. |
| 0:11.4 | Why? |
| 0:11.9 | They were like you got to, you got to wear white. |
| 0:15.5 | Now, you're cooler than I am. |
| 0:16.6 | Nah, man, these are hokas. |
| 0:18.9 | I'm wearing these. |
| 0:19.6 | The walkers shoes is walking. I have Achilles to tonight. |
| 0:22.1 | You're like a suburban dabbing. |
| 0:23.6 | I am. |
| 0:24.5 | I have Achilles to Nineties. |
| 0:27.0 | Let's come back to sneakers and roll it. |
| 0:30.9 | Like, man, I was in the, I was in the hoka store. |
| 0:35.0 | And I'm like, yeah, I looked around and there was a twinge of hesitancy. |
| 0:39.8 | Like, are you at this point in your life? And I'm like, yeah. Clearly you are, man. I just left the podiatrist. I got some custom orthotics, the whole nine. You got through orthotics in there, too? I got orthotics in there as well. What do you put in there? Because I need to put something in my Jordan so it'll be a little more comfortable. |
| 0:52.6 | So yeah, so I went to Runner's World |
| 0:54.6 | in Brentwood and they made a custom mold orthotic for me. Oh, you're all in on yeah. Like my, I just my Achilles, they're intact, but they were bothering me. I'm old, man, I'm an older guy. I know you try to bring me in this. Still play. Still play. Still box. Still out there. Still getting buckets. |
| 1:11.2 | You know what I'm saying? |
| 1:11.8 | Still getting buckets. |
| 1:12.4 | Do you still play basketball? |
| 1:13.5 | A little bit. |
| 1:14.6 | There's some skeptic. |
| 1:15.6 | Rachel's a little skeptical. |
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