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The Mother Jones Podcast

A Radical Idea for Reclaiming Our Toxic Reality

The Mother Jones Podcast

Mother Jones

News, Scoops, Journalism, Politics, Investigations, Elections

4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2019

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Science journalist Ziya Tong joins Mother Jones D.C. Bureau Chief David Corn to explain how, despite the many wonders of the human brain, we suffer from "scale blindness", a dangerous state that hardwires us to melt in the face of vast global problems. Her new book, "The Reality Bubble: Blind Spots, Hidden Truths, and the Dangerous Illusions that Shape Our World," is about our many in-built inabilities to combat complex issues like climate change—and what we can do to bust out of the powerful systems we take for granted. “I want to start from scratch," Tong tells Corn. "I want to start thinking about things in a way that is a little bit more focused and clear-headed—once you're able to see through the reality bubble, that is.”

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0:00.0

This is the Mother Jones podcast.

0:02.0

I'm Jamila King in New York.

0:04.0

On today's show,

0:08.0

on today's show, having trouble keeping up, I am, recession threats, climate change, Trump, Trump, one big story hits, then another tsunami is right there.

0:27.0

Chaos feeds Trump, so he wants us to doubt what we know and how we know it.

0:32.0

Today, the science behind how you're hard-wired

0:36.2

to fall victim to the chaos beyond your control. Why for all the wonder of the

0:42.3

human mind were poorly suited to deal with truly giant problems

0:47.1

But there is something we can do about it coming up on the Mother Jones podcast, stick around.

0:53.0

You might have seen this viral clip going around this past week.

1:02.0

A video of Stephen Colbert, the

1:05.2

late show comedian, talking about grief with CNN's Anderson Cooper.

1:09.8

Kind of difficult. I have fairly vivid memories from right after they died.

1:14.4

There was another part of their chat that really struck me and I want to play it for you.

1:20.0

We're constantly being told by this administration, you don't see what you see, you don't hear what you hear.

1:28.0

Now they're saying you don't feel what you feel. You don't actually feel that.

1:32.0

Colbert asked to talk about attacks on our shared reality,

1:36.0

and he sums it up beautifully.

1:38.0

Our president wants to live in a fantasy world where only the way he perceives the world is the way it is,

1:43.7

only things that sort of serve his vision, and he's also trying to convince us that that is the

1:48.1

only world that exists. It's extremely so absistic, but he's also trying to invite

1:52.0

us into this madness that he has and that is

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