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Hello and welcome to the Safely Ridge on Sunday podcast. The easing of lockdown continues,

even with suggestions that the coronavirus infection rate could be rising again. And on this

week's show, I asked the health secretary,

Matt Hancock, about that, plus the former footballer John Barnes gave us his take on the Black Lives Matter protests.

Well, we're joined by Matt Lavender. How are you, Matt? I'm very well, Sophie. How are you?

I'm okay. How was your week off? It was very good. It was very good, though I did notice, because obviously being as committed as I am, I obviously listened to the podcast, even on my week off.

And I felt that you slightly misrepresented how I was spending my week off by

basically suggesting that I spent the entire time in a garden centre.

Matt, I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting you to listen to the podcast when you're on

holiday. I thought I could get away with it. There's a lesson. Don't slag me off thinking

it's behind my back when it's actually being broadcast to literally anyone who wants to listen.

But you did go to a garden centre?

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