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Welcome to Frequent Miler's Coffee Break, where we focus on a single topic related to miles and points.

And each coffee break is limited to 20 minutes or less or your money back.

So here on the Frequent Myler podcast, we don't usually have guests on our show,

but we had a unique opportunity to have Pauline Fromer from the Fromer's travel show,

from Fromer's travel guides, join us today. And we just couldn't

say no. We're excited to have her as a guest, as one of our few of only, I think we've only done

maybe one or two guests in the past. So I'm excited to meet Pauline. And I'm excited to be here. Thank you so much for having me.

We have some topics we want to talk about today, but first, I'm interested in your background.

Like most of our audience has probably heard of Fromer's Travel Guides, which I understand

were started by your father. Many may know of the Frommers travel

show, which if I understand right, for many years it was a radio show, right? And now it's the

podcast. So can you tell us a little bit about that, the background, the evolution of Frommers?

Sure. Frommers was a total fluke. On the day that my father graduated from

law school, something happened to him that didn't happen to anybody else in his law school class

because he was the son of not wealthy immigrants. He had no connections, unlike many people in his law school class.

And so on the day he graduated, he was drafted to fight in the Korean War. And very luckily,

the day before he was going to be sent to Korea, somebody realized that he spoke

Russian and German because his parents were immigrants from those two areas of the world. And so instead,

he got sent to Germany. He was a guy who never thought he'd have the ability to travel. I mean,

this was the 1950s. This was something that really only very wealthy people got to do. And so anytime he had off, he would run around

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