Hey, friendly fire listeners, I'm your host, Sean Flynn, and we've got something a little

different today, a special kind of behind-the-scenes episode of Witnessed.

Episode 5 will still be coming as scheduled, but today we're going to do a little detour.

I'm going to be chatting with Mariah Smith, host of the Fantastic Podcasts Spectacle True

Crime.

The show is dissecting our messy obsession with the genre and revealing what it says about

us, and instead of me doing the interviewing, Mariah is going to be asking me the questions.

From Campside Media, Neon Hum Media, and Sony Music Entertainment, this is Witnessed Friendly

Fire, a mini episode.

Hey Mariah.

Hello, Sean.

Thank you for having me.

I am very excited, but I have an important question, and that is, are you ready to switch roles

and to get in the hot seat because I have some burning true crime questions for you?

I'm not sure.

I fear it may not reflect well upon me.

Oh, yes.

I will give it a go.

Hey, that's all I asked, or just try and we'll see what happens.

So before we dive in, I have been working on spectacle for a true crime for a minute

now, and I'm excited because I've been diving deeper into so many things, and with that,

and before I've been listening to Witness, and I'm obsessed with it so far, and I am fully

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