Hi everybody this is Gatsad I wanted to play for you a exchange between JD Vance and

Martha Raditz of ABC News.

And then I want to come back and offer a few insights.

So enjoy.

But I want to, we played some other comments about migrants, migrants including an

Aurora in Colorado where Trump said the city had been invaded and conquered by Venezuelan gangs.

The Republican mayor of the city said flatly the city and state

have not been taken over or invaded or occupied

by migrant gangs. So do you support Donald Trump making those claims

that the Republican mayor says were grossly exaggerated

and have hurt the city's identity and sense of safety.

I understand what you're saying,

that some people left behind,

but he's making these statements

that the mayor is flat out disputing.

Well, Martha, you just said the mayor said they were exaggerated. Grossly exaggerated. That means there's got to be some element of truth here and

of course

President Trump was actually in Aurora, Colorado talking to people on the ground and

what we're hearing of course Martha is that people are terrified by what has

happened with some of these Venezuelan gangs.

Senator Vance, I'm going to stop you because I know exactly what happened.

I'm going to stop you.

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