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This is the Politics and More podcast.

I'm David Remnick.

I'm going to turn things over now to staff writer Andrew Morance.

So I have a friend whose name is Courtney Martin. She's a writer who used to live near me in New York,

and then she moved away to Oakland and California. And right after she moved, she had her first child.

When we moved in, I would do what a lot of, you know, new moms and dads do,

which is like strap my kid to myself and the ergo, walk around and listen to podcasts endlessly

and kind of try to figure out what the hell my life was becoming and kind of catch up

existentially to this thing of being a mother.

And I would always walk by our neighborhood school. And it was a beautiful place. You know, this is Oakland, so it's just full of beautiful trees and flowers and just felt kind of abundant. But I was also like, wait a minute, like there's like no white kids on these playgrounds. Like, what's up with that? Because if I walk around the neighborhood, I see plenty of white families, plenty of white kids.

And then on this playground, I'm mostly only seeing black kids, maybe some brown kids.

So a couple of years go by and Courtney is starting to think about where her daughter, whose name is Maya, is going to start going to school.

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