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We find ourselves talking about trade all the time in the Trump era but

usually it's about something like crazy or weird that the president tweeted.

But it's actually an important topic that is worth understanding. So I was

really glad to get a chance to sit down with Kimberly Klausings. She's an

economist at weed and the author of a book called Open that is all about a

trade globalization and related topics. You know, if you want to know like

what's going on in the trade globalization debate, I think you're gonna find

this conversation really interesting.

Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Vox Media podcast

network. I'm Matthew Glacias. I'm joined today by Kimberly Klausing, a

professor of economics at weed college, the author of a new book called Open

the Progressive Case for Trade, Immigration and Global Capital. That's right.

Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, so that that is a lot of stuff. So yes.

Trade, though I think is sort of at the heart of, you know, what people worry

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