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I am going to be going back and forth between both of you but don't feel like you can't speak over each other if one wants to answer.

I have it of doing that he will be the first to admit.

Yeah.

He will he will talk believe me he'll be the talker.

Don't encourage you, as I'm trying to say, because I'll do it even more than usual.

My name is Nino Esposito. I am 81 years old, unfortunately.

Yeah, I'm Drew Buxay. I'm 71 years old. They met in 1970 when Nina was 33 and Drew was 23. I went to one of the

one of the meeting places in Pittsburgh for gay people and lo and behold there was

Nino. He walked into the bar and he just spotted me I guess he came up

when we just started to talk and I stood up and gave him my my bar still.

I always say chivalry was not dead at least not 50 years ago it wasn't and and the rest really was history.

In the in the 70s right right before you met what was it like to be a gay man in Pittsburgh?

Well you didn't discuss it with anybody and you just it was a clandestine you know lifestyle you didn't you

just went out you didn't go out until 11 o'clock at night and you only went to

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