This is Brian Lair's Daily Politics Podcast from WNYC Studios.

It's Thursday, June 13th.

Matt Katz, reporter in the WNYC and Gothamist Newsroom, filling in for Brian today.

Before we know it, it'll be the presidential election.

We are now a short 145 days away.

Yes, I actually did the math this morning.

And since polls show it's a tight race and likely will be right up until the very end,

we're going to look at whatever tea leaves we can to try to figure out what's going to happen when the weather gets cool again and the calendar flips to November.

So joining us to talk about the election, a short 145 days away and all things national politics is Aaron Blake, senior political reporter at the

Washington Post and writer of the campaign moment newsletter, host of the campaign moment podcast.

Hey, Aaron, welcome back to WNYC.

Hey, thanks for having me, Matt.

I can't believe it's only 145 days.

It feels like longer than that away, but it really sneaks up on you sometimes.

How many articles and posts and podcasts you think you'll be doing between now and then? Probably

more than 145, I imagine. I would think so, yes, but I don't even want to think about that at this point.

So you wrote this week as interesting article. I didn't know anything

about this. There was a special election in Ohio that didn't get a lot of attention elsewhere,

and you pulled apart what it meant. It was a special congressional election. Can you tell us

about it and what this might maybe indicate about Trump v. Biden in November?

Yeah, so I should add, it's not just one that probably you and I hadn't been paying attention to.

It's one that the national parties had not been paying attention to.

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