Hello there. This is Mark Bowerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

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Wyoming Catholic is a conservative Catholic college that educates students in the great books and Catholic tradition.

It also teaches horsemanship and banned cell phones on campus. I love that.

And it turned down federal funding. President Glenn

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culture that has lost its spiritual center. We're adventurous and poetic and deeply Catholic.

He likes to cite Dostoevsky in crime and punishment. Low ceilings are bad for the soul.

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Its Catholic identity builds upon Thomas Aquinas in the Magisterium of the Catholic Church

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Robert DeYani teaches humanities at NYU.

His previous books include the craft of college teaching and critical reading across the curriculum.

His new book is You Are What You Read, a Practical Guide to Reading Well,

our topic today. Welcome, Robert. Thank you, Mark, for having me. All right. Well, the question,

why do we need a practical guide for reading at the present time? I think we always need practical guides for lots of things.

And I think one of the most, one of the greatest pleasures in life and one of the most important things we can do for ourselves

to live life more rewardingly, more intellectually,

rewardingly and more emotionally rewardingly and more emotionally

rewardingly is to read with skill with comprehension with enjoyment read socially

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