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A potential pharmacy-benefit manager breakup

Marketplace All-in-One

Marketplace

News, Business

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2024

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

New proposed legislation would make it illegal for one company to own both a pharmacy and a pharmacy-benefit management company. A PBM helps health insurers manage their prescription drug benefits and negotiates prices and rebates; CVS has both pharmacies and a benefit management division, as does Cigna and UnitedHealth. But some federal lawmakers see a conflict of interest. Also: the eco-friendliness of small SUVs and the future of Nasdaq board diversity rules.

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0:00.0

Should the same company both dispense medicines and work with insurance companies and drug makers to set how much you pay for drugs?

0:09.7

I'm David Brancaccio. New legislation introduced in both the House and Senate would make it illegal for one company to own both a pharmacy and a pharmacy benefit management company.

0:19.7

A PBM helps health insurers manage their

0:22.3

prescription drug benefits and negotiates prices and rebates. CVS has both pharmacies and a benefits

0:28.2

management division, same with Cigna and United Health. As marketplaces Samantha Fields report,

0:33.6

some lawmakers see a conflict of interest. Pharmacy benefit managers do two primary things for health insurance companies,

0:39.8

according to Matthew Fiedler at the Brookings Institution.

0:42.8

They negotiate with drug manufacturers and negotiate prices with pharmacies.

0:48.4

The thing is, the benefit manager and the pharmacy they're negotiating with are often owned by the same

0:53.4

parent company.

0:54.8

Naird-Zood at USC says think of it like this.

0:58.1

Suppose you hire my wife to negotiate with me on your behalf.

1:05.6

And you say, hey, I'm making a deal with your husband, and I want you to get a good outcome for me.

1:10.4

Wouldn't you be like, hey, my, oh my God, there's a conflict of interest.

1:13.6

She's going to do a terrible job negotiating because she's negotiating with her family.

1:18.5

Suit says it's the same thing here.

1:20.8

There's little incentive for benefit managers to negotiate lower prices for health plans at a pharmacy their parent company owns.

1:33.3

And the concern is that can drive up costs for health plans and lead to higher premiums for consumers.

1:35.2

There's another issue, too.

1:43.0

Now imagine there's a CVS pharmacy, and right next to that CVS pharmacy is an independent pharmacy.

1:48.7

And they're competitors, but the pharmacy benefits manager they're both negotiating with is owned by CVS.

1:51.3

Which pharmacy is likely to get a better deal?

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