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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

A post-October 7th security doctrine for Israel - with Haviv Rettig Gur

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Haviv Rettig Gur returns for our weekly conversation from Israel to provide real-time reporting and analysis on the war, and invaluable historical context. We wanted to check in with Haviv, who is the political analyst at The Times of Israel, where was also a long time reporter. He’s also working on a book. Haviv was also a combat medic in the IDF where he served in the reserves. Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/call-me-back-with-dan-senor/id1539292794?i=1000632264331

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0:00.0

The love of Zion didn't drive any single government in this region to make any kind of treaty or agreement with Israel.

0:06.4

It was about strategy. It was about Israeli power. It was about Israeli stability.

0:10.6

That has to be restored. That has to be seen to be restored and that's not something we can achieve in Gaza.

0:17.0

Gaza is a very high cost and low reward arena. In other words, the cost of civilians, the cost to Israel's image, the cost,

0:27.8

you know, in many, many ways potentially to Israeli soldiers' lives will be high. We have to go after Hamas and so we will, but that will be high and the

0:34.8

reward in terms of our deterrence is not that much even if we succeed spectacularly.

0:40.1

And so no, this is a larger, longer kind of war that Israel has now decided to join in a whole different way.

0:48.0

We're not where we were two weeks ago. It's Sunday October 29th at 10 PM here in New York City. It's 4 a.m. on Monday, October 30th in Israel.

1:11.0

From Cornell University here in New York to Russia there are anti-Semitic

1:18.4

mobs raging with images that are an echo of Crystal Knacht.

1:23.4

This week will be 85 years since Crystal Knocked,

1:26.7

the night of Crystal or Broken Glass,

1:29.5

which was the night one week in November, it was actually November 9th to 10th, 1938, when members of the

1:37.2

Nazi Party and other collaborators led a destructive campaign of violence against Jewish

1:42.4

people and their communities. You can look up more

1:45.7

on what happened in Crystal Nach. Many Jews were killed, tens of thousands were taken away

1:50.2

to concentration camps and tortured.

1:52.9

There's a lot of history to read about Crystal Nacht.

1:55.8

And it is a topic we'll be returning to tomorrow with Yossi Klein-Halevi

2:00.3

and the comparisons to events we are seeing all over the west these days from college

2:06.4

campuses to major cities. I also want to spend a moment talking about a different

2:11.5

subject which is international aid to Gaza. This has been in the news quite a bit in recent days and I was reading this one article from the Associated Press, which I want to quote from here.

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