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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

A Post-Delta World — with Dr. Sid Mukherjee

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

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🗓️ 3 September 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Is the pandemic fight winnable or are we going to keep chasing these variants forever? And What does this mean for our lives and our economy? As we were all gearing up for a roaring return to normalcy, the Delta variant has tempered enthusiasm. Before Delta, we fought a virus and thought we may have won by developing a vaccine...quickly (THANK YOU Operation Warp Speed, and thank you to the ecosystem of life science start-ups and large pharma companies, and to the years and years of massive investment in the sciences that made all of this possible). But three dominant variants later, it looks like we're not fighting a virus as much as we are fighting the fundamental rules of evolution. From Alpha to Beta to Gamma to Delta, the virus is becoming more contagious (while its effects are also less severe for the vaccinated). What should this tell us? What does this trajectory look like? To help us understand the new ambiguity we’re in, we checked in with Dr. Sid Mukherjee - a stem cell biologist, cancer physician and hematologist. Dr. Mukherjee is a New York Times bestselling author. He’s written three books: The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer, which was the winner of the Pulitzer Prize in general nonfiction. In it, Sid traces the history of cancer from its first appearance in an ancient Egyptian scroll to state-of-the-art labs in today’s research institutions. He also wrote The Laws of Medicine, as well his latest book, THE GENE: An Intimate History. This book has been turned into a four-part PBS documentary series, which Sid worked on with filmmakers Barak Goodman and Ken Burns. Sid is also a writer for The New Yorker magazine. He is an assistant professor of medicine at Columbia University, and a cancer physician and researcher. Sid completed his internal medicine residency and an oncology fellowship at Massachusetts General Hospital. A Rhodes scholar, he graduated from Stanford University, University of Oxford -- where he studied immunology — and Harvard Medical School. He is also behind a number of start-ups in the life sciences.

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0:00.0

Now the delta strain is pretty much the single dominant strain in the world.

0:04.4

And so we need to figure out, you know, whether these vaccines are working against delta and to what extent.

0:09.6

What are the clinical consequences for all of this?

0:12.0

If yet another strain were to become

0:13.9

dominant in the world we would have to repeat all of this and this is something

0:17.8

especially in the era of evolving viruses that's something we have to be cognizant of and just swallow as it were.

0:25.6

Welcome to post-Corona where we try to understand COVID-19's lasting impact on the economy, culture, and

0:34.8

geopolitics. I'm Dan Seinor.

0:37.0

As we were all gearing up for a roaring return to normalcy, the Delta variant has at best

0:50.2

tempered enthusiasm. Before Delta we fought a virus and thought we may have won by developing

0:56.2

a vaccine. Quickly. Thank you Operation Warp Speed and thank you to the ecosystem of life science startups and large

1:04.7

pharma companies and the years and years of massive investment in the sciences

1:09.2

that made all of this possible but three dominant later, it looks like we're not

1:14.5

fighting a virus, as much as we are fighting the fundamental rules of evolution.

1:19.1

From Alpha to Beta to Gamma to Delta to virus is becoming more contagious. I should

1:25.7

emphasize that its effects are also less severe if you're vaccinated. But what

1:30.7

should all of this tell us?

1:32.8

What does this trajectory look like?

1:35.2

Well to help me understand how to make sense of the new ambiguity we're in, I checked in with

1:39.7

Dr. Sid Mukherjee, who's a cancer physician, a stem cell biologist, and a

1:45.4

hematologist. Sid is a New York Times best-selling author. He's written

1:50.2

three books, The Emperor of All Maladies, a biography of Cancer, was the winner of

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