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I'll see you on the road. Hello.

Hi, my name's Stad Herndon. I'm a reporter with the New York Times. I was looking for Kate.

And you have found her. I was looking for Kate.

And you have found her. How are you?

Good, how are you?

I'm doing good.

Thank you so much.

Earlier this week, I hopped on the phone with one of our listeners, Kate.

I worked for the California State Assembly for almost 30 years and I also was elected to the city council in Yukiah, California in 1980, possibly before you were born.

So you've been someone who's been politically active for a long time, both locally on the state level. You got it. Yeah and I'm not like I'm not a

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