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So I'm really excited to finally share with you guys something that I've been working on for so long.

This is a long time in the making here. It's a long time in the making.

You had to ignore us on tour.

You had to say, no, I will not go hang out with you

guys. I am working. That's mostly what he does, though, normally. I know. He was just happy about that.

Yeah, I had a real excuse. Yeah, so I've been, I've been really working hard for over a year

on a project that I can now share with you and with our

listeners. And it really goes back to like my love of mysteries and crime stories, crime books,

especially like novels. I'm a huge fan of like Tonner French and Michael Connolly. And I just,

not only do I read these but I also

listen to them on audiobooks a lot and I also love podcasts um true crime podcasts any kind of

podcast I've been listening forever um and that's true by the way you were one of the original

podcast listed I think the first time I ever heard the word podcast was out of. Was out of my mouth. Yeah. Yeah. I think I got into him in like 2008, you know, like when I still had like a regular old iPod and had to download it. So it actually made sense to call it a podcast. But anyway, yeah. So I started this project. I had an idea at first that was full documentary, which was that I would interview people

that I grew up with because, you know, there's a lot of, where I grew up was like a lot

of alternative family situations, like the high school that I went to, you know, I graduated

in a class of 12.

A lot of like kids growing up with like communes,

uh, some may say cults, uh, situations where like people would be like, oh, they're half brothers

and half sisters. And it's like, because they're the child of the same leader of their like

group. And you'd be like, uh, your cousins, you're, you're related, how does this all work? And how, you know,

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