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Deadline: White House

“A pivotal day”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Msnbc, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Versant, Washington Dc, Government

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Alicia Menendez — in for Nicolle Wallace — on the latest probe on Capitol Hill into the Epstein case, Donald Trump’s threats to free speech, and a dismissed Trump lawsuit.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. It is 4 o'clock here in New York. I'm Alicia Menendez in for Nicole Wallace,

0:13.0

in the middle of a pivotal day on Capitol Hill for the probe into the government's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case.

0:19.8

At this hour, the House Oversight Committee,

0:21.6

they are still in their closed-door meeting with Alex Acosta, the former U.S. attorney for the

0:26.9

Southern District of Florida, and Donald Trump's former Labor Secretary. Now, you'll recall,

0:31.7

Acosta led the negotiation of that highly controversial 2008 plea deal that shielded Epstein from any federal charges.

0:40.6

The agreement allowed Epstein to plead guilty to state charges involving one underage

0:45.5

victim, gave him generous work release privileges while he served just over a year in prison.

0:51.3

According to Blockbuster reporting from the Miami Herald's Julie K. Brown in 2018,

0:56.4

that helped lead to Epstein's 2019 federal indictment, quote, Acosta allowed Epstein's

1:02.3

lawyers unusual freedoms in dictating the terms of the non-prosecution agreement. As a result,

1:08.5

neither the victims nor even the judge would know how many girls

1:12.3

Epstein allegedly sexually abused between 2001 and 2005 when his underage sex activities

1:18.9

were first uncovered by police. There are so many gaps that Acosta's testimony could fill in.

1:25.5

For example, why was this sweetheart deal kept hidden from

1:29.3

victims? But here's how Democrats on the committee described how Acosta's interview was going

1:34.3

earlier today. He seems to be pretty dug in on the decisions that he made. And unfortunately,

1:41.5

I heard things that disturbed me such as, well, back in 2006,

1:47.0

it was a different time. And it seemed as if we were going back to a little bit of victim shaming

1:54.0

and believing that, well, nobody's going to believe these girls or these women.

1:59.0

Essentially said he didn't have faith in the victims, their stories, and their ability to tell their own story and their own testimony, which is deeply disturbing.

2:08.6

One of the survivors that was there was very clear that she was abused, an assaulted and raped by Jeffrey Epstein during his work release. And during that time

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