You're listening to Imaginary Worlds, I'm Eric Mulinsky.

Yeah.

I had musically for breakfast.

Tell me about the musely.

Um, Josh makes it from like, millet.

This is reporter Julia Barton.

She's in my apartment and she's telling me what she had for breakfast.

Really?

Which is a classic question we use in public radio to adjust microphone levels.

That sounds awesome.

So normally this podcast follows my obsessions.

But this one, this episode is about one of hers.

Julia is really fascinated by a 19th century French philosopher named Charles Fourier.

He was a young man during the French Revolution and he saw how human society

could be completely reconstructed.

In that experiment ended with a lot of the headings in the Napoleon.

But he was like, you know, we can get it right.

And he developed all these ideas about how you could change the way people live.

He had answers to everything.

So like, well, nobody's going to want to clean the latrines.

You know, and he's like, no, children love filth.

And people would say, well, what about families?

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